Comments on: Avoid The Dirty Dozen http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/09/dirty-dozen/ Transforming a picky eater into a healthy eater. A guide for parents of picky eaters that actually works. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:01:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: md http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/09/dirty-dozen/comment-page-1/#comment-9354 md Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:33:16 +0000 http://www.babybites.info/?p=2172#comment-9354 Interesting - just posted recently (and I just now saw it): http://lifehacker.com/5488799/the-common-sense-guide-to-organic-and-other-food-labels Interesting – just posted recently (and I just now saw it):
http://lifehacker.com/5488799/the-common-sense-guide-to-organic-and-other-food-labels

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By: md http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/09/dirty-dozen/comment-page-1/#comment-9353 md Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:57:04 +0000 http://www.babybites.info/?p=2172#comment-9353 So what's the process like for a farmer to get their goods certified as "organic"? If it's a USDA term, then I assume there's some paperwork or application involved. I remember reading about some NY-area farmers complaining that the process was prohibitive, but I don't know the facts behind it. Food that is local and organic is the best, but I wonder how much local farmers market food is actually organic, just not labeled as such due to a troublesome process associated with the term "organic". Of course, I would also not jump to the conclusion that farmers market stalls are representing small farmers -- they could be relatively large scale producers, just so long as they're local :) So what’s the process like for a farmer to get their goods certified as “organic”? If it’s a USDA term, then I assume there’s some paperwork or application involved. I remember reading about some NY-area farmers complaining that the process was prohibitive, but I don’t know the facts behind it. Food that is local and organic is the best, but I wonder how much local farmers market food is actually organic, just not labeled as such due to a troublesome process associated with the term “organic”. Of course, I would also not jump to the conclusion that farmers market stalls are representing small farmers — they could be relatively large scale producers, just so long as they’re local :)

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By: Rhonda Bolich-Lampo http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/09/dirty-dozen/comment-page-1/#comment-9259 Rhonda Bolich-Lampo Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:08:53 +0000 http://www.babybites.info/?p=2172#comment-9259 A couple of add-on thoughts to this discussion... Have you ever tried a conventional banana and then an organic banana? We had this experience one time and have never gone back to conventional bananas. The taste of an organic banana is sooo much better...like a banana should taste. There is a mis-perception that Farmer's Markets are organic produce. Most are not. You have to specifically ask how the produce is grown to know for sure. Also, there is an excellent book "The Body Restoration Plan" by Dr. Paula Baillie-Hamilton who is an expert in human metabolism. She has studied chemical calories for years and talks about how you can eliminate chemical calories and repair your body's natural slimming system. The chemicals used to grow crops also grow us. Think about it...chemicals don't always get washed off or cooked out and so if it's in the fruit or vegetable it gets into you too. Lettuce and strawberries are two of the biggest culprits. The strawberries that are the size of your palm are hybrids. My grandmother who grew up on a strawberry farm in Missouri can't believe they grow that big. The strawberries grow that big because of the chemicals. Typical strawberries are about an inch in size. A couple of add-on thoughts to this discussion…
Have you ever tried a conventional banana and then an organic banana? We had this experience one time and have never gone back to conventional bananas. The taste of an organic banana is sooo much better…like a banana should taste.

There is a mis-perception that Farmer’s Markets are organic produce. Most are not. You have to specifically ask how the produce is grown to know for sure.

Also, there is an excellent book “The Body Restoration Plan” by Dr. Paula Baillie-Hamilton who is an expert in human metabolism. She has studied chemical calories for years and talks about how you can eliminate chemical calories and repair your body’s natural slimming system. The chemicals used to grow crops also grow us. Think about it…chemicals don’t always get washed off or cooked out and so if it’s in the fruit or vegetable it gets into you too. Lettuce and strawberries are two of the biggest culprits. The strawberries that are the size of your palm are hybrids. My grandmother who grew up on a strawberry farm in Missouri can’t believe they grow that big. The strawberries grow that big because of the chemicals. Typical strawberries are about an inch in size.

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By: Thomas Byro http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/09/dirty-dozen/comment-page-1/#comment-9239 Thomas Byro Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:10:40 +0000 http://www.babybites.info/?p=2172#comment-9239 I grew up in a remote Low Saxon speaking farming village in Germany. Pesticides were unknown. Fertilizer consisted of manure generated on the farm itself. I never thought twice about picking an apple off the tree and eating it without washing it (although I would be mindful of worms in the apple). Come to think of it, I cannot remember the last time I found a worm in an apple. In light of what you are saying, that is a disturbing thought. My interest had been in taste. In that sense, Organic is not necessarily a spectacular improvement. However, what does make for a spectacular improvement is grass fed vs grain fed and free range vs cage fed. If you are ever in the area of Newville, PA, stop of at the farm of Mark and Maryanne Nolt. They are Old Order Mennonite and they follow organic farming practises. The cows are fed on grass from the pasture and sileage and the chicken coops are moved to a new location every day so that the chickens can feast on grass, worms and slugs and other disgusting things. The milk is not pasteurized or homogenized and the egg yolks are a somewhat orange color rather than a pale yellow. The eggs actually have a taste and the milk tastes like another substance altogether compared to the commercial stuff in the supermarket. At this point, they no longer sell milk to the milk truck. Except for the milk that they sell from their farm store, all the milk is used to make their own cheese. I do have a problem with the cheese. It is not aged long enough. They simply sell it out too fast. I grew up in a remote Low Saxon speaking farming village in Germany. Pesticides were unknown. Fertilizer consisted of manure generated on the farm itself. I never thought twice about picking an apple off the tree and eating it without washing it (although I would be mindful of worms in the apple). Come to think of it, I cannot remember the last time I found a worm in an apple. In light of what you are saying, that is a disturbing thought.

My interest had been in taste. In that sense, Organic is not necessarily a spectacular improvement. However, what does make for a spectacular improvement is grass fed vs grain fed and free range vs cage fed. If you are ever in the area of Newville, PA, stop of at the farm of Mark and Maryanne Nolt. They are Old Order Mennonite and they follow organic farming practises. The cows are fed on grass from the pasture and sileage and the chicken coops are moved to a new location every day so that the chickens can feast on grass, worms and slugs and other disgusting things. The milk is not pasteurized or homogenized and the egg yolks are a somewhat orange color rather than a pale yellow. The eggs actually have a taste and the milk tastes like another substance altogether compared to the commercial stuff in the supermarket. At this point, they no longer sell milk to the milk truck. Except for the milk that they sell from their farm store, all the milk is used to make their own cheese. I do have a problem with the cheese. It is not aged long enough. They simply sell it out too fast.

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